pureevil77 (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

i have to agree with my best friend that Here Comes The Judge is the first rap record, funky bass, dope drums no doubt about it THIS IS HIP HOP

T6451 (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

Thanks! I've always loved the bass in this song!

Bimmyjond (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

That was amazing. I never heard the second half before!

weenielongus (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

I understand what you're saying, but I was only mentioning recordings that RHYMED and were spoken to the pace of the music. The ones I mentioned were loose 'raps', unlike Gil Scott-Heron's "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised", Les Crane's "Desiderata", Jerry Reed's "Another Puff" and Art Linkletter's "We Love You, Call Collect" which were spoken word. I stopped at the 60s, but can we step back a lil' further to Bill Parson's "The All American Boy" from 1958 as an early 'rap recording?!?

judymaem1 (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

oh my god. i love pigmeat. i am from the bahamas and i grew up listerning to him back in the day.thanks for posting this.

rantrover (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

Those titles you mentioned are "spoken word" recordings. You should know there is an obvious difference between rapping and just reading lyrics. I'll give you that Jimmy Dean's "Big Bad John" does come close to rap but it's still basically spoken word.

weenielongus (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

Seriously (from my earlier post), I consider "Here Come The Judge" the oldest modern-day ancestor to hip-hop recording since it precedes James Brown's "Say It Loud - I'm Black And I'm Proud" by 3 months and Gary Byrd's "Every Brother Ain't A Brother" by a whole 2 years. A semi-honorable mention to Gil Scott-Heron's "The Revolution Will Not Be Televized", which isn't really a 'rap' record, but a not too distant cousin to rap...

weenielongus (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

Rantrover, if we want to exclude 'funk'-type rap and throw Napoleon XIV (1966) in the mix, then heck, let's go back even further and give shout-outs to even earlier 'rap' recordings like Lorne Greene's "Ringo" (1964), Walter Brennan's "Old Rivers" (1962) and Jimmy Dean's "Big Bad John" (1961), huh?? I could go as far back as "Life's A Funny Proposition After All" by George M. Cohan from 1911, but I think I'll stop in the 1960?!?...OK, now I'm just being a troublemaker!!...

snarnok (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

Thank you for uploading this! Pigmeat Markham also recorded another track called "Who got the number" which is more ahead of its time than this one.

tomata182 (December 31, 1969 at 5:59 pm)

you have got to be kidding me. crap crap and more crap